Necromancer General Discussion

Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by Brandon, May 19, 2014.

  1. Dice Dragon Top Kekrator

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    Anyone got videos of 9pc shroud of darkness? Bonus points if they got the zombie wand.
     
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    http://v.17173.com/dnf/epic/034.shtml
    enjoy ur 80k tick gangbang. not gonna lie those zombies got mad balls, willing to hug anything. too bad they get blown down by berserk dragon cry and can get stunned or else it would be some next level holding for shit like taorik/kres.
     
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    Yup, thats exactly what I expected to happen, but Necro has alot more skill damage and goodies now, so it should be able to run train on TA/etc and you can deto the zombies at will now so praise.
     
  4. Firefly

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    i mean u could still use the set to insta explode all those zombies and get a full gauge for tome for 30% boost dmg boost on living dead and a bunch of other memes lol
     
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    Thats the plan, zombies are actually kinda really buffed since that point, and the wand has +40% skill damage for it, should be mad nice. Necro fun as heck
     
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    I was thinking about starting Anton havent even done norms cause I think Im weak, currently have DoD with +10 Lord of Darkness, with cheap swap set, do I need to work on a Legendary battle set before I can be useful, or is it possible to begin now? Also what Legendary subs are good for necro? I have the 75 Unique Shadow stone, but I have been considering a upgrade.
     
  7. NinNinCen Aim for the bushes

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    That can work for sub par dungeons such as battlefield. You will be the holder/semi damage of your field team. Focus more on Refining than Reinforcing as you are guillotine setup. Mixed legendaries are extremely easy to get now, at least the Anton legendaries. I've seen black flowers and absolute field shoes for as low at 7m. I remember when they are 60m. Aside from that you can get Dead captain which is still kinda expensive or vilmark pieces. Best sub in the game right now and one of the best in 90 cap is Puppet Whip, its just way to good.
     
  8. Is no vallacre necro viable yet? Or at least keeping him to prerequisites. It seemed to work fine after she got her rework when they added screaming girl but I only played her a bit and it has been a long time.
     
  9. Pyros

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    Depends on what you mean viable, viable to run grandine or ancients, sure, kinda, you'd still need to actually cast Vallacre because like half the skills require it and you'd lose a ton of damage from not having any fillers when your stuff is on cooldown, as well as losing a bunch of defenses, but you could play without it. It wouldn't be good though.
     
  10. DFOMarra

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    Well i'm officially a meme now. Finished 9pc shroud of darkness + dead man sorcerer set up. Anyone else with this set up feel that certain enemies can only have 1 zombie biting/holding them at a time?
     
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    Oh, hey, look, Neople gave us the prolife zombies. Wonderful.
     
  12. DFOMarra

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    Holy moly these zombie changes are INSANE. Don't remember reading in patch notes, but i'll go over what i've found through testing.
    My set up is 9pc shroud of darkness+dead man's sorcerer wand+sheyd's tear+water splash title for cdr.
    First change, using the zombie summon skill while zombies are up doesn't explode them anymore.
    As a result of that we can now go through the cap of maxed summoned zombies.
    Pre Patch- Summon 12 Zombies, then they go boom when try to summon more.
    Post Patch- Summon 12 zombies, then 12 more, then 12 more.
    As of right now i'm still missing a cdr off slot but ii can get 48 zombies out constantly.
    You still have 100% uptime on black magic:spirit tomb because when the zombies reach end of their summon they still give you orbs that refill the gauge.
    Keep in mind i'm not manualing the zombie skill nor have cdr offslot. Im pretty sure you could have 60 zombies out consistently if you did
     
  13. Radion

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    What are DnF necros using besides DG set up?
     
  14. Necrofancy Blame Blobâ„¢

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    Yup... best to send a bug report about it, but it's likely just going to be delayed until the next balance patch...

    Speaking of:

    • Black Flower Top stays as a top piece for various legendaries for now.
    • Light armor epics are really good now. Nature is something like 5~10% stronger, on average for now. Not enough to still beat it after the armor mastery change.
    • Luke normals are out, and it looks like they're after the revamp from what I'm hearing.
    You could do the same thing with unbugged zombies by resummoning Nicholas - the zombie detonations are actually tied to that specific Nicholas.
    I've seen nature, full plate, and some 90 unupgraded sets like Black Formal.

    The problem is that a lot of the 90 sets have unstackable smash and crit smash mods, and that real estate is ideally taken up by either Sensory Satisfaction/Five Senses or Infinite Series accessories for most character builds. Those accessories overshadow most other accessory options for the most part, by much more than 85/90 sets overshadow DG in a vacuum.

    This is, of course, assuming regular mob damage... If we have object damage as a heavily important aspect of damage (see Pre-revamp Luke), DG is actually really bad at that (neither elemental damage or additional elemental damage do anything for object damage), and you're best off switching to a non-elemental stacking epic loadout.

    In kDnF right now, after armor mastery changes and after Luke revamp, if you have completed DG, you can kinda coast on it provided you have either of those accessories (or are working on them) until you upgrade a 90 set.
     
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  15. NinNinCen Aim for the bushes

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    Be careful guys Necromancers and the Red Clown have a weird interaction. Where if you fail to do the gimmick in time and he starts swinging hammer if you black wave with nicholas it causes him to bug out and even when you get near him again he wont activate the panels anymore.
     
  16. Varra

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    Is Wooden Puppet Whip still better than Worshipful General's Textbook?
     
  17. Tionisha

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    not sure how much is the difference but what I do sometimes is swap into the whip when I use guillotine and then change back to another sub
     
  18. NinNinCen Aim for the bushes

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    If you don't have a Gold cup I would stick with the puppet whip over any other sub equip.
     
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  19. Can someone list BIS gear and decent alternatives that is non epic gear
     
  20. NinNinCen Aim for the bushes

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    Fancy already listed the most used epic gears besides mana burn(Still bugged?) and football. If for weapons then u would personally aim for goddess dagger if you don't have a good modifier. But since 90 has so many good smash mods I'd use 90 wand if you find it over goddess dagger if you have say anton smash or 5 senses. Savior is ok for now but since lod swap is a thing and you can't release savior for guillotine I would hold it and wait for lod swap to be patched or use if you don't have anything else. And I say use an epic loosely as you can't aim for epics other than gabe... or xfer. For legendaries black flower top is good, dead captain shoulder, absolute field, bat pants and some vilmark pieces are good. At least for anton but for luke I wouldnt step foot with legendaries.
     
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