Necromancer General Discussion

Discussion in 'Necromancer' started by Brandon, May 19, 2014.

  1. Crypticwiz

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    I have a quick question. I am going to finish my req wand grinding today and hopefully turn it into a lib wand soon. I have a +10/+8 Nine Skulls that I an currently using and I was wondering if I should keep it or sell it. Does it have any utility outside of nich dopple and is Iris's boss wand better?
     
  2. Necrofancy Blame Blob™

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    I was the one who shot prices on pledge titles down to 40-45m, so something around that range is fine to me. I'm just looking to recoup costs while going for kuno/SD titles at this point.

    They also changed Vallacre's Pledge emblems to have their own name - no worries about specifically checking Grasp emblems anymore.

    You should try loss tanking to a lower ranking to get matched more frequently and to have better win rates. The PvP community is far too dead to go for PvP gear without gaming the hell out of the system imo. I've gone out of my way to use the amp event to bypass needing War God Top for DR/Pledge sets, even one that features no waiting on gear switch CDs or gets in the way of pet charging by pet swapping.

    There's actually a video of a necro soloing Naval Gunship with Nich Doppels and Black Web, although he actually used Iris's Wand.

    Sorceror's is also DR+2, if you can affort to take the hit in STR then that works.
     
  3. NinNinCen Sky Traveler

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    Not sure if anyone is still theory crafting for the future

    Magic cata - +2 Pledge
    Kings book - 1 DR
    Halidom - 1 Pledge / DR
    Ghost Train Pants - 1 Pledge / DR
    Belt - STR / Taint
    Shoes - STR / Taint
    Top - STR / Taint
    Ring - STR / Taint / High tech ring ( 1 DR in future)
    Necklace STR / Taint
    Vetrans True Intention - 1 Pledge
    Pet - 1 DR
    Ava Top/Bottom/Clone/Aura 4 Pledge /DR
    Title - 2 Pledge / 3 DR

    If you have the money I would suggest amping your +1 skill gear and throw DR taints on any other slot open. This seems the fastest way to me to get 10 DR and 9 Pledge without waiting on cooldown of gear but will still have to ava swap. Of course this is beyond cap level so don't go buying everything here just get what you think you can afford.
     
  4. Necrofancy Blame Blob™

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    Amping DR/Pledge pieces is what I've done for my post-revamp setup.
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    +5 Pledge
    +6 DR

    I have enough amping/enchants on those pieces to only need to switch between aura/top/bottom (+4 to each pledge or DR) to be capped in either. Then I can jump right into battle set without fiddling with pets (which costs charge time on actives like Hot Summer pet) or waiting on cooldowns. Since the variation is only in avatar swaps between pledge/DR, I only have to mess with one window to complete a setup, then switch to the equipment window to go completely to battle set.



    Of course, that's contingent on Cataclysm giving +2 pledge and us having revamped avatar tops, so for now, I'm using still using the "swap box"
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    I have a basic set of swap avatars, but this gets stuck with a 10s cooldown for a couple important slots. That means I have to equip ->avatar -> equip swap to cap out.

    Most ideal setup would probably involve having enough skill boosts to be able to go from DR to Pledge in just title switching. That's actually really hard with our current equipment possibilities:

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    This involves basically +11 amping one piece, +10ing almost every single other piece. Only the top is not +10 and only the stone is completely uncursed.
    2500 valid STR is actually a bitch to hit when you try to blend Pledge and DR setups together to minimize swapping. The super-STR epic options in revamp conflict with Pledge-boosting slots, which is a fair bit annoying.

    It's why the change to 2222ish STR needed is really nice, but who knows what exact patch point we'll get in the next balance update for DFOG.

    In other news, someone found a deal chart for Thanatos in Luke Raid, and let's just say Vallacre Incarnation is SUPER STRONG right now.
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    Now, when I initially looked at the (upgraded) cloth armor set, I brushed it off in comparison to SuperContinential set, but there's been a lot of revelations and revamps that are making this set look absolutely absurd on Necro right now.

    To list what's changed since I last looked at the set:
    • Light armor no longer has a particular advantage over Cloth Armor because of the crit mod changing
    • Luke Normals+Raid was revealed to have a 23% defense shred cap. The armor set featured a 25% shred aura in test server, which would that Fear of the Slaughterer's ~10-11% along with this set could actually cap Luke shreds.
    • Vallacre Incarnation doing serious damage makes the extra skill damage for 2nd awakening actives a LOT more attractive.
    I really should look into how the upgraded sets got updated. This looks like some stupidly good potential right here.
     
  5. Radion

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    can someone link me some necro videos of her doing naval or a break down of timing cubes.
     
  6. GhostlyCrow

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    Isn't it just "don't activate cube skill if blue shield guys are alive and not being held?" Like on Witch I can pop Uroboros at about 45 seconds and be fine to roll on them when they spawn at 50.
     
  7. Icaro [3 Steps Ahead]

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    i still have only +4 pledge and +3 DR as i keep working on getting more STR pieces, but at slow pace one can achive success... or so the saying goes.
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    for all of you necro mains.
     
  8. Necrofancy Blame Blob™

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    Easy way to do naval defense on any character.

    Look at the seconds timer when you enter second room, and add 10, 20, and 30.

    Example off a video:
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    Golems will spawn at 08, 18, and 28.
    So you'd set up Living Dead at around 25:11 or so, and guillotine at 25:09-10 as an example.

    The only Necro hampo video I've actually seen is a Necro completely dicking around, summoning Nicholas Doppelgangers with Iris Wand, and soloing without ANY cubes whatsoever because enemies can't get past [​IMG]. Mind you, they're using a Salvation Wand, and that wand is basically the only good weapon to use in tandem with Iris's Wand at endgame (Nicholas Doppelgangers do NOT get damage modifier bonuses, but will benefit from the straight skill damage on Savior weapons).
     
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  9. Radion

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    Thank you Fancy!
     
  10. Necrofancy Blame Blob™

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    Necromancer changes coming up with this update.

    Summary:
    • We're getting the balance patch up to Cataclysm adjustment (meaning reworked, permabuff Dark Ritual needing +10 DR and 2500 valid STR).
    • Not getting the later adjustments.
    • No full update to Epics yet (Dark Gothic unaffected for now)
    • Update to avatar top options MIGHT fix Thief avatar top options
      • EDIT: YOU CAN FINALLY PICK VALLACRE'S PLEDGE AS A TOP HOLY SHIT YESSSSSSSSS
      • ALSO UNHOLY MASTERY IS A TOP OPTION AND THE SKILL IS GOOD NOW
    Looks really good for now :jawdrop: DG necro is going to be at its strongest point until the epic rework, at which point it'll take a slight hit until the armor mastery update.
     
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  11. Icaro [3 Steps Ahead]

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    Searching for +2-3 DR/+2 pledge titles to grab is suffering ;_;
    but whoop whoop pledge and unholy mastery on top avas is a blessing. :dance:
    also quick question. Since i have the 9pc chron box, is spider prince a good option for a grab? i heard that it was good for a hold position in antonnio
     
  12. NinNinCen Sky Traveler

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    It's a good hold set but the reason I stay away from it is because the lack of damage you bring with it. Unless your team is really strong and just needs to hold to skip gimmicks I wouldn't go for it but DoD instead. You can just time your holds at crucial moments and still do damage this way. However, if the 2 or 3 seconds extra duration from the hold actually makes a difference for your team I would say go for it. Assuming you plan to take Necro all the way I would begin with DoD but if you are just using her as a hold slave for GG Raid Pots then I can see why you would go it.
     
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  13. Icaro [3 Steps Ahead]

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    im still working on my battle set with various legendary pieces and my swaps (still need sea god pants and +2-3 titles) since i just got puppet whip at a cheap price, so i thought while doing anton with friends and guildies i can play the hold people person.
     
  14. Necrofancy Blame Blob™

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    Run it by your guild/group first.

    If it's your current best way to get into raid, you don't have any other class you could use a 9pc on, and you're not interested in taking a class up for it, then, well hey it lets you get into raid.

    There are vids of people making it work, but I don't particularly recommend it
     
  15. What's the least expensive setup for raid?
     
  16. GhostlyCrow

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    I figure if anybody would know, it's Necros: Black Flower Lower Armor - Does it do +20 shadow damage etc no matter what your health, and an additional 10 if lower than 70%, or is it an either/or thing?
     
  17. Firefly

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    tfw I bought dem pantsu when they were like 100m :suicide:

    +20 shadow stays no matter what, u get additional +10 under 70% for +30 total.
     
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    Remote control Vallacre silliness.

    In case anybody didn't know about it.
     
  19. Mystella

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    Hi I was wondering what's the best pet for necromancer? Is Petit Thanatos worth buying?
     
  20. NinNinCen Sky Traveler

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    Behemoth is your best bet right now in terms of raw stats and +1 skill. Dopple is also good. Petite isnt good besides the crit damage and +1 to awakening, +1 val the slaughter doesn't do much.
     
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