Everyone knows Chaos is retarded broke. Better yet both those classes can raid in halidoms which is hardly fair to any other class. If you are fighting for a spot as a magic dealer in raid the top would be chaos ele summoner and kuno, excluding popularity. I mean if you are so sceptic about kunos damage in comparison to other classes where would you tier kunos in the magic damage catergory? As low as mmech or fmech damage. Especially in this meta favoring burst > dps. You are also comparing a state where kunos are weaker than a equally geared fnen where as before that wasnt so much the case. When you say your sceptical about kuno dmg according to your current setup, the power gap between blazing vanquisher and explosive shadows is very huge. When everyone saw that weapon only video of kuno im pretty sure that part of it was having a high shadow clone level, tagged along with the bonus dmg off the weapon. Taints also scale way better with explosive shadows vs vanquisher. With vanquisher to be optimized you have to utilize a various fire setup for building as much fire dmg as possible to combine with the 12% fire additional. With Explosive shadow you could hit cap fairly well to the point where getting more dmg b/c you cant get more levels is way more beneficial than having a low level for the taints to scale off of. There really isnt a comparison bwtween kunos dmg if one person has shadows and the other vanquisher (unless its something like tog).