Berserker General Discussion

Discussion in 'Berserker' started by Poison, May 19, 2014.

  1. Jaðarsormr 抜けない事があきらかだからって、オレが努力しなくていいって事にはならない

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    In terms of Ind Att, it's easy:
    <amount of Ind Att from the item you're gonna equip> / <your current amount of Ind Att> * 100 = <amount of Damage increase your Skills get>

    Also, Sorry for misinfo - I forgot that Olympus Bead doesn't buff Passive Skills, and Bloody Cross is Passive. Still, +30 Ind Att (still from the Olympus Bead) at 2387 Ind Att gives you ~1,26% Damage, which doesn't change your situation. Olympus Bead enchant + Olympus Aura is still better.
     
  2. NewCut

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    Oh ok, I'll keep that in mind
     
  3. Ryoh

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    Is ABR worth replacing burning spirit ring in fire setup? I already have petit blood evil pet for crit smash, so idk what to replace the pet if I do switch into ABR.
     
  4. Zorc James Let me shoulder your sins.

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    So I managed to get both Caravella and Flare Devil from hell mode today. I was wondering, out of the two epics, which one is better and which one should I diss?
     
  5. AliasZ

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    Caravella is better
     
  6. Jaðarsormr 抜けない事があきらかだからって、オレが努力しなくていいって事にはならない

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    ABR's average damage is +19% Critical Damage.
    Burning Spirit Ring gives +35 Fire Damage (which is about +10~15% Damage at its best, but much more during Caravella's Fire Elenore proc).
    I think that ABR is for more stable Damage increase, but Burning Spirit Ring is "all or nothing" for Caravella's Fire Elenore proc.
    I guess you need to find another Pet first (without Smash or Crit modifier) and then decide which Ring to use.
     
  7. Pennyroyal Bunk

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    For the epic road's 70-80 weapon box, should I go with Dainsleif over Caravella? How much fire damage do I need to stack in order for Caravella to be better than Dainsleif?
     
  8. madchickins Zhu c 666

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    Probably around 250
     
  9. Draq Bruiseus Maximus

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    is dark hole supposed to be Shit on zerker ?
     
  10. Ralexinor I'm allergic to stupidity.

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    dark hole is shit on most classes still
     
  11. Lethologica real class never

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    its not shit, its ok. dont be an elitist
     
  12. 흐켱의소울

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    It is between okay and shit for full epic set. Don't be an optimist.
     
  13. magma11

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    I got Yang Ull's Twig from Epic Road two days ago. I hit 85 (and 86) today, and I didn't think it looked like that bad of an epic until I read the gearing thread. What would be a good potion to work towards instead?
     
  14. AliasZ

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    It's okay, it got reworked to give 20% elenore so it's not bad anymore
     
  15. magma11

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    Awesome to hear :) I can't find it anywhere, but does it still have that stun buff that was mentioned (The one I assume makes it bad in anton)?
     
  16. Jaðarsormr 抜けない事があきらかだからって、オレが努力しなくていいって事にはならない

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    My posts are outdated, but I'm working on updating them (already updated Sub-Equip and one of Magic Stone posts).
    Yang Ull is MUCH better than before, but still not BiS. I'd say it's C~B Tier, but probably closer to B Tier: +30% Damage (Smash modifier) is REALLY non-consistent, but +1 to Blood Riven is nice, as well as +20% Damage (Elenore modifier).
    And yes, it doesn't have that stupid Stun effect anymore.
    And there's no more problem with Yang Ull's stacks disappearing after swap, because we got Unlimited Buffs patch.

    I'd go with Dainsleif - who knows what kind of Epics you'll get from Hell Mode. Caravella got great potential in case you're gonna stack as many Fire Damage items as possible, but Dainsleif is good in any Elemental build, be it Fire, Water, Light or Shadow.
    Of course, if you have enough money to get all Fire Damage Legendaries and you have Flame Drop Trousers - go for Caravella, I guess.
     
  17. Draq Bruiseus Maximus

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    Congrats, you got the best farming sword in the game. 25% speeds and with good damage without factoring the counter attack modifier, however as mentioned above it's not Masamune or Beyollungum so get another sword for anton raid.
     
  18. Caramellan The Absolute (Poorest)

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    So, perhaps I'm stupid, but I decided to roll with Caravella on the Epic pot for my lv75 Zerk. Unfortunately, the problem was getting it while I'm absolutely 100% poor and with very ghetto gear. I managed to get up to about 90 fire damage in town because I got lucky with beads and some accessories. Now, the questions I have are: Was this a huge mistake? I know I'm not even capped yet, but is getting the fire damage I need going to be a real fuckfest? And lastly, should I even really worry/spend money at this level, or will my damage only really come into question later? Thanks in advance.
     
  19. madchickins Zhu c 666

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    You just gonna have to put together some Frankenstein epics with a source of smash like great glory bracelet, then get dusky west ring and a decent fire elemental magic stone. You goofed but if you can manage around 250-300 fire you'll be hitting way harder than if you went gracia with Danksleif.
     
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  20. Jaðarsormr 抜けない事があきらかだからって、オレが努力しなくていいって事にはならない

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    The good thing is that Anton Fire Legendaries are MUCH cheaper now: Flame Offering Necklace, Flaming Veil Overmantle, Flaming Veil Overshoes and Dark Rubrium Coil will cost less than 10-20m these days (so you need like 70-80m for all those 4 items).
    First bad thing is that non-Anton Fire Legendaries are still kinda expensive (but again, not as it was before): Filir - Undying Fire and King's Road Keeper: Sacred Fire will cost like 60-100m (Sacred Fire is probably cheaper, so it's gonna be like 160-180m for those 2 items). There's also a Doppelganger of Fire Title, but it's kinda expensive these days (30-40m).
    Second bad thing is that Flame Drop Trousers and Submarine Volcano pieces are Epics, so you might get them soon... or not really soon (I still don't have a single SV Belt, and that's after maaaaaaany Hell Mode runs). Is it possible to get 250-300 Fire Damage without those Epics? Let's check:
    6 All Elemental Damage (from Frost Cave Dimensional Seal Quest clearance)
    7 All Elemental Damage (from Time Break Dimensional Seal Quest clearance)
    34 Fire Damage (Flame Katana - Caravella)
    22 Fire Damage (Dark Rubrium Coil)
    42 Fire Damage (Flame Offering Necklace)
    30 Fire Damage (Selist's Tear)
    ? Fire Damage (Flaming Veil Overmantle)
    ? Fire Damage (Flaming Veil Overshoes)
    10 Fire Damage (per Accessory enchant - from Christmas Elemental Bead [Fire])

    These are you cheapest options. Why did I post "?" near Flaming items? Because it depends on what amount of Legendaries or Epics you equipped. Let's say that you follow Flesh's advice and pick up Dusky West Ring and Great Glory Bracelet. Then I'd advice you to get Great Glory Armband, Dusky West Heavy Armor Top and Dusky West Heavy Armor Pants (OR you can buy another cheap Anton Legendary, which is Power Arm Chain Leggings, that will probably work better - it cost about 15-20m these days). This way, you'll have 9 Legendaries and 1 Epic, which means +21 Fire Damage from each Flaming item.

    Let's count the amount of Fire Damage, then:

    6 + 7 + 34 + 22 + 42 + 30 + 21 + 21 + 10 + 10 + 10 = 213 Fire Damage

    Unfortunately, you can't reach even 250 Fire Damage with the cheapest Fire Damage items. Because of that, you need to rely on more expensive Legendary Fire Damage items and Fire Damage accessory enchants, get lucky with Flame Drop Trousers or Submarine Volcano pieces (especially Belt) or have a good party member that will support you with additional Fire Damage (Vilmark set user / Wesley's set user / Absolute Field user / Flame Drop Trousers user / etc.)

    Still, this is the cheapest build (many Quest Legendaries, buyable Legendaries are very cheap) you can get, and I think it's very good for its price. Things would've been easier if you had more money, but not everyone can afford to buy stuff like Disease-spreading Hardened Heart, three Essence Hyper Mecha Tau cards, Filir - Undying Fire and others with ease (which I can understand).

    You should look for Fire Damage Aura in the future, as well as try to get Fire Damage Gem from Guild Dungeons. Even if not by a lot, but they'll help with reaching 250-300 Fire Damage.
     

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